Some probably think what a smarty pants I am, so what would I actually do if I were the therapist? For example, how would I have treated the woman who was Jung's patient who thought she has lived on the moon. Obviously I don't know the facts beyond this anecdotal story of the type and extent of her illness and other symptoms. But here is what I would do if I were presented with a woman who, due to mental illness, felt she had been on the moon. I would treat her as if she had indeed been on the moon and then guide her through behavior and cognitive therapy that would utilize the model that she is now fully "relocating" to earth. I'd have her intercept thoughts about her moon experiences with thoughts about how she's packing away photos she took of those times, for example, as she's now fully living in her apartment (or clinic) here on earth. Whenever a moon event would arise in her mind I would incorporate it into her doing both mental and real activities that relate to her making a "permanent change in residence" here on earth. For example, she could use art therapy to draw her "moon passport" and her "earth passport" and then work on canceling and filing away the moon passport since she will no longer need it. So while she would be having the mainstream treatment for whatever her baseline illness is (e.g. schizophrenia) I would transition her behavior and cognition from the delusional ones to the reality using tools such as envisioning her relocating to earth.
Hope this helps.
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Friday, March 14, 2008
Explanation of Carl Jung breakthrough treatment
When Jung first interned and practiced medicine people who were “insane” were considered to be just babbling and what they actually said was never attended to. While Freud had already invented psychoanalysis or what’s called “the talking cure,” it was a tool used for people with mild issues or neuroses. No one really dreamed of using a talking cure with a severely mentally disabled and institutionalized patient. One of the most famous and seminal episodes in Jung’s first days as a doctor was when he encountered an institutionalized schizophrenic woman who insisted she was from the moon and had, obviously, been on the moon. To the astonishment of his colleagues Jung engaged her in therapeutic dialogue and accepted “as fact” that she had been on the moon. Jung explains in his writings that the way the conscious and unconscious mind works, this woman was providing valuable and “true” information to be used for her own therapy. A patient who states and lives within such a reality of belief has to be treated within the context of the very real impact that this belief has on their psyche and prognosis.
Here is a modern day example. When a soldier comes back from war, often he or she has post traumatic stress disorder. One symptom of PTSD is frequent flash backs occurring in either dreams while asleep or while awake. Years ago studies were done that demonstrated that each incidence of dreaming one is back in battle is the same physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually as if the service person had actually been transported back to battle in reality. In other words, every dream or flashback is another “dose” of the traumatizing event, just as if the event had in fact happened again. Therapists who are very “venting” oriented may make a serious error by minimizing as “natural” repeats in the imagination of the traumatizing events. This is not “letting it out” but actually reinforcing and repeating the event as if it was actually, physically in reality taking place again. Further, a person who dreams of a traumatizing or violent event over and over will have changes made to them even if they have actually never experienced that event even once in personal reality. Thus a civilian who had never seen war but who dreams of battle over and over can and will be traumatized with PTSD even if they never had been a soldier in fact. The dreams and imaginings will change the brain, spirit and body chemistry in such as way as if the person was actually thrust into battle over and over.
So Jung was the first to recognize that a woman who believed she lived on the moon and had been there several times “really has been there.” Her body and mental reality would be shaped by her “experiences on the moon.” Therefore Jung applied psychoanalytical practices to this patient and others like her, treating their perceived experiences as if they were real because for all intents and purposes of therapy they WERE real experiences to the patient.
Nowadays an idiot New Ager would conclude that the woman was an “alien,” or “was trying to remember past lives,” or “had a strong lunar position afflicted in their astrology chart.” Good grief. Malpractice would be too mild a word for this. That is like treating the soldier by saying that instead of being traumatized in Iraq, he or she had “an afflicted Mars in their chart,” or was a “reincarnated soldier in Napoleon’s army.” Somewhere along the line popular thought has become unhinged and can’t even comprehend that “it is what it is.” As my neighbor would say about such people, “They don’t remember that two plus two equals four.”
When I worked with crazed New Agers who actually are paid lots of money to be “therapists,” they were terrified of actually listening to the dream of a person with a serious mental disorder, such as schizophrenia. They have rejected not only Jung but also Freud, for such people, and have bought into the pill popping culture of the insurance companies and entertainment media. They peed in their pants or skirts at the thought of my listening to and analyzing the dreams of any of my “clients” (we can’t call them patients because that would imply they are sick, duh). Even my personal Jungian analyst dragged out stupid reincarnation books for me (that was one of my first big clues about the New Age and Gnostic stalker cabal), forgetting Jung’s own teaching that reality is reality and nothing more. So I did listen to the dreams of “clients,” even those with schizophrenia. I cannot describe the relief and palliative effects that they experienced when their dreams and experiences were treated with dignity and reality and analyzed and explained accordingly. Whether they thought they saw Jesus or whether they had traumatic or embarrassing dreams, those are their realities and need to be treated as such because their bodies and their minds sure react and conform as if those events were reality. So dreams and hallucinations are important to heed and not to go to either extreme of: discarding/forbidding/shutting them off as “ravings” or elevating them as symbols of some fruity cultic worship that will do even more harm to the patient. The last thing a patient who dreams of war repeatedly needs is to be treated as if he was a reincarnated soldier in Napoleon’s army. The second to the last thing the patient needs is to be encouraged to keep “venting” because it is “healthy” to keep remembering and repeating trauma and then drugging it into submission. One must medicate to remove the pain so that one can treat. I cannot believe what poor, little or no treatments that our Iraq and Afghanistan service people are receiving, for example. Every repeat they have of their trauma is as if the trauma has actually occurred once again. But what do I know, I’m not a licensed social worker or part of the pseudo medical elite.
Anyway, I thought I’d share this famous breakthrough of Jung’s and explain it as it really is, rather than some of the mythology that has grown up around it. Jung has quite incorrectly become the poster child for depraved liberal New Age Gnostic “values” and the baby papa of every moon calf that is running around ruining medicine today. Moderation and reality have been thrown out the window in far too many places in modern society and as a result wounds are not healing… they are becoming infected instead. People with severe illness need to be institutionalized and treated with appropriate REAL remedies and therapies. People have not only removed the safe container of places of healing but they have also mainstreamed snake oil and charms along with pills as “therapy.” It’s unbelievable. The damage is far beyond what anyone can imagine. Ugh. *Sigh.*
I don’t want to leave a blog posting on a negative note, though I must be a straight shooter about what is really going on or the fall for everyone is going to be long, hard and unrecoverable. So the positive that I want to give you to consider, and the reason I told this Jung story, is that the body and the mind want to heal and do give accurate signals on their face value of what is wrong. There is no mystery or double meaning. When a woman feels she has been on the moon, she “has” been on the “moon.” When a person dreams about traumatic events there are “in” those events and need to be treated accordingly. They need to be treated at face value because their minds, bodies and spirit are telling the therapist what they are experiencing in the here and now in truth, and not in some goofy sci-fi fantasy symbolic Gnostic world. A dream grenade is a virtual reality of a physical grenade. It is not an anagram for a “deer nag” and thus the sufferer is found to be a reincarnated pushy antelope. *Rolls eyes.* I wish I were joking or exaggerating but as many of you know first hand I am actually understating the problem, sadly.
Here is a modern day example. When a soldier comes back from war, often he or she has post traumatic stress disorder. One symptom of PTSD is frequent flash backs occurring in either dreams while asleep or while awake. Years ago studies were done that demonstrated that each incidence of dreaming one is back in battle is the same physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually as if the service person had actually been transported back to battle in reality. In other words, every dream or flashback is another “dose” of the traumatizing event, just as if the event had in fact happened again. Therapists who are very “venting” oriented may make a serious error by minimizing as “natural” repeats in the imagination of the traumatizing events. This is not “letting it out” but actually reinforcing and repeating the event as if it was actually, physically in reality taking place again. Further, a person who dreams of a traumatizing or violent event over and over will have changes made to them even if they have actually never experienced that event even once in personal reality. Thus a civilian who had never seen war but who dreams of battle over and over can and will be traumatized with PTSD even if they never had been a soldier in fact. The dreams and imaginings will change the brain, spirit and body chemistry in such as way as if the person was actually thrust into battle over and over.
So Jung was the first to recognize that a woman who believed she lived on the moon and had been there several times “really has been there.” Her body and mental reality would be shaped by her “experiences on the moon.” Therefore Jung applied psychoanalytical practices to this patient and others like her, treating their perceived experiences as if they were real because for all intents and purposes of therapy they WERE real experiences to the patient.
Nowadays an idiot New Ager would conclude that the woman was an “alien,” or “was trying to remember past lives,” or “had a strong lunar position afflicted in their astrology chart.” Good grief. Malpractice would be too mild a word for this. That is like treating the soldier by saying that instead of being traumatized in Iraq, he or she had “an afflicted Mars in their chart,” or was a “reincarnated soldier in Napoleon’s army.” Somewhere along the line popular thought has become unhinged and can’t even comprehend that “it is what it is.” As my neighbor would say about such people, “They don’t remember that two plus two equals four.”
When I worked with crazed New Agers who actually are paid lots of money to be “therapists,” they were terrified of actually listening to the dream of a person with a serious mental disorder, such as schizophrenia. They have rejected not only Jung but also Freud, for such people, and have bought into the pill popping culture of the insurance companies and entertainment media. They peed in their pants or skirts at the thought of my listening to and analyzing the dreams of any of my “clients” (we can’t call them patients because that would imply they are sick, duh). Even my personal Jungian analyst dragged out stupid reincarnation books for me (that was one of my first big clues about the New Age and Gnostic stalker cabal), forgetting Jung’s own teaching that reality is reality and nothing more. So I did listen to the dreams of “clients,” even those with schizophrenia. I cannot describe the relief and palliative effects that they experienced when their dreams and experiences were treated with dignity and reality and analyzed and explained accordingly. Whether they thought they saw Jesus or whether they had traumatic or embarrassing dreams, those are their realities and need to be treated as such because their bodies and their minds sure react and conform as if those events were reality. So dreams and hallucinations are important to heed and not to go to either extreme of: discarding/forbidding/shutting them off as “ravings” or elevating them as symbols of some fruity cultic worship that will do even more harm to the patient. The last thing a patient who dreams of war repeatedly needs is to be treated as if he was a reincarnated soldier in Napoleon’s army. The second to the last thing the patient needs is to be encouraged to keep “venting” because it is “healthy” to keep remembering and repeating trauma and then drugging it into submission. One must medicate to remove the pain so that one can treat. I cannot believe what poor, little or no treatments that our Iraq and Afghanistan service people are receiving, for example. Every repeat they have of their trauma is as if the trauma has actually occurred once again. But what do I know, I’m not a licensed social worker or part of the pseudo medical elite.
Anyway, I thought I’d share this famous breakthrough of Jung’s and explain it as it really is, rather than some of the mythology that has grown up around it. Jung has quite incorrectly become the poster child for depraved liberal New Age Gnostic “values” and the baby papa of every moon calf that is running around ruining medicine today. Moderation and reality have been thrown out the window in far too many places in modern society and as a result wounds are not healing… they are becoming infected instead. People with severe illness need to be institutionalized and treated with appropriate REAL remedies and therapies. People have not only removed the safe container of places of healing but they have also mainstreamed snake oil and charms along with pills as “therapy.” It’s unbelievable. The damage is far beyond what anyone can imagine. Ugh. *Sigh.*
I don’t want to leave a blog posting on a negative note, though I must be a straight shooter about what is really going on or the fall for everyone is going to be long, hard and unrecoverable. So the positive that I want to give you to consider, and the reason I told this Jung story, is that the body and the mind want to heal and do give accurate signals on their face value of what is wrong. There is no mystery or double meaning. When a woman feels she has been on the moon, she “has” been on the “moon.” When a person dreams about traumatic events there are “in” those events and need to be treated accordingly. They need to be treated at face value because their minds, bodies and spirit are telling the therapist what they are experiencing in the here and now in truth, and not in some goofy sci-fi fantasy symbolic Gnostic world. A dream grenade is a virtual reality of a physical grenade. It is not an anagram for a “deer nag” and thus the sufferer is found to be a reincarnated pushy antelope. *Rolls eyes.* I wish I were joking or exaggerating but as many of you know first hand I am actually understating the problem, sadly.
Wednesday, March 12, 2008
Watch this space
Later I'll post about one of my favorite Jung interpretations on behalf of a schizophrenic woman. It's a great story but as with synchronicity has been misunderstood, both on extreme when he actually did this work, and then in these goofy New Age times in the other extreme. I'll explain the central and correct view of what he did.
Synchronicity
I mentioned this term, coined by Carl Jung, the psychoanalyst. Here's a quick definition and some cautions about using the term. It's a favorite of New Age groupies, but they get it all wrong. Synchronicity is "meaningful coincidence." This means that there is a significance to two or more coincidental events. Where people get confused it is because they think that simply because there is a "meaning" or "significance" that there is an actual causal relationship between the two events. That is wrong and is "magical thinking." "Magical thinking" is a distortion in reality and a temptation to find relationships between unrelated events and then falsely manipulate them (and the people involved).
Here's the classic example that Jung cited. He had a new patient, a woman, and they made very little connection or progress during the beginning of their psychoanalytical sessions. One day she told him that she had dreamed of a golden scarab (a beetle). Before Jung could reply he heard a tapping on the window behind him. Turning in his chair he saw a golden beetle tapping on his window. He opened the window, caught up the beetle in his hand, turned to the woman and showed it to her exclaiming, "Now we can start!" This event, this synchronicity, was the breakthrough event in her therapy and from that point on he reported the analysis went fruitfully and smoothly.
Now gnostic and New Age "thinkers" make the error that there is an actual cause and effect relationship between her dream of the beetle and the beetle appearing. They drag into it ESP, karma, past lives, Egyptian gods and loads of crap. But that is jumping to a conclusion that her dreaming of a beetle and then seeing a beetle is such a magical and mysterious event that surely it must be occult. B*** S***! I never once heard such a person give a logical explanation or want to hear one. Here it is. How much detail do you consciously notice each day? Not so much. There are all sorts of bugs and critters and events that take place all around you that you don't tend to focus on as you hurry to work or your day's errands. The odds are that this woman noticed out of the corner of her eye such a beetle sometime during the days before her dream. Dreams always soak in day to day material where it is useful, whether you actually notice that material or not. So the beetles were on the march, so to speak, in their neighborhood. It's not like a magic gold scarab flew in from ancient Egypt. These are beetles that exist in the environment. So she has a dream because at some point one has been around her home. Where the synchronicity comes in is that one knocks on Jung's window as she relates her dream. Again, it's a coincidence (in other words, she did not "summon" the beetle nor did the beetle "summon" her, neither one caused the other to have their experience). But a meaning, a usefulness, springs into being because of this coincidence. It becomes the breakthrough and fertile event for her analysis. That is why it is "meaningful," not because one caused the other, but because the coincidence of their timing created a potent situation, a "potentiality." The event becomes "significant" because there is something that becomes available to be worked on as a result of this coincidence.
Suppose the beetle tapped on the window during Jung's previous patient, or during his next patient. It would have "missed" being a synchronicity for the patient, but it would have been a synchronicity for Jung himself. If he saw the beetle beforehand, and then she comes in and relates her dream, Jung would have a "Hmm" moment that might have inspired him in some way, but she would not have shared in it because of that mistiming on her behalf. She might even feel deflated instead of inspired if she told Jung this dream and he replied, "Oh, yeah, I saw a beetle like that a few moments before you came in." See what I mean? It's synchronicity because there is meaning to the two parties, to the timing of the two events. Likewise if the beetle had not appeared when she was present, and she told her dream of a beetle as she had shared others with Jung previously, they would probably have had another of their correct but desultory sessions. Jung would have analyzed the dream as usual but without that "zing" that the timely appearance of the beetle created between them. Later if he saw the beetle while he was with his next patient, again he might have had a "Hmm" moment for himself, but it would not have been a synchronicity for the beetle dreaming patient. A matter of a few minutes one way or the other changes the recipient of the synchronicity. It would just be a woman who dreamed about a beetle of the type that does occur in the area, and then one alighting on Jung's windowsill. It is a synchronicity not because an event takes place that is "destined" in a numinous way in the universe, but because two coincidences create a fertile and potently strong connectivity in a mysterious way. Synchronicity is not like electricity that is a real force of nature and occurs here or there, planned (electrical wiring) or not (lightning, or a short). It is two separate, coincidental events that when they occur for their own separate reasons they join together to create something "significant" and "meaningful."
I hope this helps.
Here's the classic example that Jung cited. He had a new patient, a woman, and they made very little connection or progress during the beginning of their psychoanalytical sessions. One day she told him that she had dreamed of a golden scarab (a beetle). Before Jung could reply he heard a tapping on the window behind him. Turning in his chair he saw a golden beetle tapping on his window. He opened the window, caught up the beetle in his hand, turned to the woman and showed it to her exclaiming, "Now we can start!" This event, this synchronicity, was the breakthrough event in her therapy and from that point on he reported the analysis went fruitfully and smoothly.
Now gnostic and New Age "thinkers" make the error that there is an actual cause and effect relationship between her dream of the beetle and the beetle appearing. They drag into it ESP, karma, past lives, Egyptian gods and loads of crap. But that is jumping to a conclusion that her dreaming of a beetle and then seeing a beetle is such a magical and mysterious event that surely it must be occult. B*** S***! I never once heard such a person give a logical explanation or want to hear one. Here it is. How much detail do you consciously notice each day? Not so much. There are all sorts of bugs and critters and events that take place all around you that you don't tend to focus on as you hurry to work or your day's errands. The odds are that this woman noticed out of the corner of her eye such a beetle sometime during the days before her dream. Dreams always soak in day to day material where it is useful, whether you actually notice that material or not. So the beetles were on the march, so to speak, in their neighborhood. It's not like a magic gold scarab flew in from ancient Egypt. These are beetles that exist in the environment. So she has a dream because at some point one has been around her home. Where the synchronicity comes in is that one knocks on Jung's window as she relates her dream. Again, it's a coincidence (in other words, she did not "summon" the beetle nor did the beetle "summon" her, neither one caused the other to have their experience). But a meaning, a usefulness, springs into being because of this coincidence. It becomes the breakthrough and fertile event for her analysis. That is why it is "meaningful," not because one caused the other, but because the coincidence of their timing created a potent situation, a "potentiality." The event becomes "significant" because there is something that becomes available to be worked on as a result of this coincidence.
Suppose the beetle tapped on the window during Jung's previous patient, or during his next patient. It would have "missed" being a synchronicity for the patient, but it would have been a synchronicity for Jung himself. If he saw the beetle beforehand, and then she comes in and relates her dream, Jung would have a "Hmm" moment that might have inspired him in some way, but she would not have shared in it because of that mistiming on her behalf. She might even feel deflated instead of inspired if she told Jung this dream and he replied, "Oh, yeah, I saw a beetle like that a few moments before you came in." See what I mean? It's synchronicity because there is meaning to the two parties, to the timing of the two events. Likewise if the beetle had not appeared when she was present, and she told her dream of a beetle as she had shared others with Jung previously, they would probably have had another of their correct but desultory sessions. Jung would have analyzed the dream as usual but without that "zing" that the timely appearance of the beetle created between them. Later if he saw the beetle while he was with his next patient, again he might have had a "Hmm" moment for himself, but it would not have been a synchronicity for the beetle dreaming patient. A matter of a few minutes one way or the other changes the recipient of the synchronicity. It would just be a woman who dreamed about a beetle of the type that does occur in the area, and then one alighting on Jung's windowsill. It is a synchronicity not because an event takes place that is "destined" in a numinous way in the universe, but because two coincidences create a fertile and potently strong connectivity in a mysterious way. Synchronicity is not like electricity that is a real force of nature and occurs here or there, planned (electrical wiring) or not (lightning, or a short). It is two separate, coincidental events that when they occur for their own separate reasons they join together to create something "significant" and "meaningful."
I hope this helps.
Saturday, September 29, 2007
Run From "Jungians"... I sure have
If you are considering being psychoanalyzed or participating in some sort of counseling based on a psychological or spiritual school of belief, run for your life from “Jungians.”
Carl Jung was a genius and his methodology for psychoanalysis is sound. However, his successors have perverted his system into a paganism and New Age travesty that is heretical and harmful.
Jung himself was a Christian and a believer. He understood that Jesus Christ lived, died, and was resurrected. He understood that the just went to heaven. I remember he would speculate about whether those in heaven know about events on earth, a topic that many Christians still discuss. I therefore learned the Jungian system and endorsed it for the psychoanalysis of humans regarding their life here on earth.
Jungians, though, have abandoned Jung’s sound Christian belief. Many of them are reincarnationists, believers in New Age “karma” (that trash can for explaining any behavior or event without taking personal responsibility for one’s own one time life and one’s own soul), gossipers (they do not maintain confidentiality because they have “think groups” aka covens to discuss their “reincarnation” discoveries among their patients), pagans (by perverting the theory that archetypes describe patterns of human behavior and instinct into animating archetypes into god and goddess type of beings), and bad practitioners (they interpret dreams and so forth in the context of the “identity” they think you really are based on their New Age beliefs, so they are not objective or “safe containers” in the least. They would advise you to walk off a cliff if they think that’s your karma or reincarnation “doom,” without telling you that is what they are thinking.)
It is a shame because the original work of Jung is so rich and has such potential if it is used as a psychoanalytical tool and not as a religion replacement. I had considered writing a book that would be structured along the lines that if Jung was still alive, in this troubled society, what would he advise a psychoanalyst. When I realized what a clique (and of course the psycho stalking) that takes place among many Jungians, however, I abandoned that idea (and them) like a hot potato.
When I was interning and still advocating Jung, many non-Jungians looked at me like they thought I was crazy. That is because some of them were aware of these abuses of Jung and specifically how Jungians have abused me. They figured I was a mighty dumb cluck to not know about it. I did, actually, but just because “followers” of a belief have perverted it does not mean that the originator, in this case Jung, did not have much of value. I’ve always been pretty good at recognizing the wheat from the chaff. (Hint: what happens to wheat and chaff in the Apocalypse).
Some of you, the few, who might be good Christians who are also Jungians might object and feel hurt by what I have written. Let me assure you that if you exist I don’t doubt your motivations, but know that your Jungian colleagues probably figure you are an idiot who doesn’t get it and treat you as such behind your back. They will publish your papers and books according to when Mercury is retrograde or whatever, and figure out that you were the sexually molested idiot girl (whether you are now a man or a woman lol) of a Pacific island back in the 1600’s anyway, and that the archetypes are giving you another chance to not be such a stupid loser in this life. I found that thinking pretty icky, don’t you? I wish I were kidding or exaggerating but if anything I am understating what I have personally observed over the years.
So this is why even though I remain so very fond of Carl Jung in my heart, I won’t touch any of the contemporary works or practices that are attributed to his school of thought, because it is corrupt and anti-Christian, anti-Jewish and anti-Islam because of the paganism.
Carl Jung was a genius and his methodology for psychoanalysis is sound. However, his successors have perverted his system into a paganism and New Age travesty that is heretical and harmful.
Jung himself was a Christian and a believer. He understood that Jesus Christ lived, died, and was resurrected. He understood that the just went to heaven. I remember he would speculate about whether those in heaven know about events on earth, a topic that many Christians still discuss. I therefore learned the Jungian system and endorsed it for the psychoanalysis of humans regarding their life here on earth.
Jungians, though, have abandoned Jung’s sound Christian belief. Many of them are reincarnationists, believers in New Age “karma” (that trash can for explaining any behavior or event without taking personal responsibility for one’s own one time life and one’s own soul), gossipers (they do not maintain confidentiality because they have “think groups” aka covens to discuss their “reincarnation” discoveries among their patients), pagans (by perverting the theory that archetypes describe patterns of human behavior and instinct into animating archetypes into god and goddess type of beings), and bad practitioners (they interpret dreams and so forth in the context of the “identity” they think you really are based on their New Age beliefs, so they are not objective or “safe containers” in the least. They would advise you to walk off a cliff if they think that’s your karma or reincarnation “doom,” without telling you that is what they are thinking.)
It is a shame because the original work of Jung is so rich and has such potential if it is used as a psychoanalytical tool and not as a religion replacement. I had considered writing a book that would be structured along the lines that if Jung was still alive, in this troubled society, what would he advise a psychoanalyst. When I realized what a clique (and of course the psycho stalking) that takes place among many Jungians, however, I abandoned that idea (and them) like a hot potato.
When I was interning and still advocating Jung, many non-Jungians looked at me like they thought I was crazy. That is because some of them were aware of these abuses of Jung and specifically how Jungians have abused me. They figured I was a mighty dumb cluck to not know about it. I did, actually, but just because “followers” of a belief have perverted it does not mean that the originator, in this case Jung, did not have much of value. I’ve always been pretty good at recognizing the wheat from the chaff. (Hint: what happens to wheat and chaff in the Apocalypse).
Some of you, the few, who might be good Christians who are also Jungians might object and feel hurt by what I have written. Let me assure you that if you exist I don’t doubt your motivations, but know that your Jungian colleagues probably figure you are an idiot who doesn’t get it and treat you as such behind your back. They will publish your papers and books according to when Mercury is retrograde or whatever, and figure out that you were the sexually molested idiot girl (whether you are now a man or a woman lol) of a Pacific island back in the 1600’s anyway, and that the archetypes are giving you another chance to not be such a stupid loser in this life. I found that thinking pretty icky, don’t you? I wish I were kidding or exaggerating but if anything I am understating what I have personally observed over the years.
So this is why even though I remain so very fond of Carl Jung in my heart, I won’t touch any of the contemporary works or practices that are attributed to his school of thought, because it is corrupt and anti-Christian, anti-Jewish and anti-Islam because of the paganism.
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